Public Testimony, GCEL

Governor’s Commission on Early Learning

Radisson Hotel

July 20th, 1999

Legend:

Testimony of Public Present

Commission Members or Executive Director

Affiliated with Government Agency or Commission

Sharon Oldfield:  The Commission was established on the premise that science proved that early childhood brain development is contingent on early childhood experiences.  As a result, the Commission believes if early childhood experiences are controlled, the child will succeed.  That’s were science and good intentions get muddled.  Yes, early childhood experiences do affect the development of personality; however, there is no scientific data that suggests that the child will succeed or not succeed as a result of these experiences.  And for that reason, alone, the state should not guide, force parents to raise their children in a manner that the state determines necessary.  To summarize, I will quote John Bruer, a specialist in cognitive science and philosophy of science,

this brain research is pseudo-science and is serving a political agenda, not children and families.

Marcia Mack:  As a parent, a grandparent, and a former teacher with credentials, and a masters degree in early childhood, I feel qualified to speak to the issues.  When phonics was removed from the school, I stood silent, and when goals 2000 came, I stood silent as well.  But I will not stand silent this time.  You're giving us the Children’s Bill of Rights.  The preamble lacks proof that ages, you say, 0-3 are critical to brain development, and a child’s current and future ability is linked to this brain growth which occurs in the context of nurturing relationships and experiences.  What are your scientific studies proving?  That a brain does not build without nurturing experiences?  And how many children were tested, who did the testing, and who paid for the testing?  I’ve worked in first grade , preschool, kindergarten, and day care.  What children need is not scientific studies, they need their parents, they need to stay home, they need to wake up in their own bed they don’t need to be in daycare facilities from 6 in the morning until 6 at night.  They do not need to bond with multiple adult authorities because they’re capable of doing so.

Zukowski:  sum up, please.

I find it rude that I sat here for 3 hours and listened to you and you can't listen to me for more than a minute.

I think that we’re destroying our children, I think that you don’t know how to provide a quality environment in a home.  And you should not be setting the standards.  Even in a recently aired video called "It’s Elementary", children were told their parents don’t always know best and the teachings of a parent were ridiculed.  I’m sorry that Melinda’s not here, because I would ask her husband to stop giving computers and money to libraries until they stop … begin filtering the pornography so that our children are not hurt.  In summary, supporting existing laws, teach parents to say "no", teach respect for authority, guarantee safety to the unborn, lower taxes — and children and their parents will experience joy, hope and responsibility.  By taking over, you are guaranteeing your job security and training people to be irresponsible.  Stop being enablers.

Zukowski:  Before we go on, I just want to say that our choice today was to either have time to allow everyone to speak who wanted to address the commission to speak.  In order to do that, we have to limit the time, or we have to limit the number of people who get to address the commission.  We chose to let everyone to speak, so we must limit the time to speak.

Julanne Burts:  I work in the dental profession.  I’m here today to voice my opposition to the work being done by the Governor’s commission on the child care issues and the Children’s Bill of Rights.  I know that everyone in this room wants what’s best for children, and I know that there are times when the arm of the government must reach into homes to protect children, but this commission's proposals will bring the government into every home.  They seek to intervene where intervention is not needed; to enforce the values of bureaucrats on families and use the power of the government to do it.  The commission proposes the use of our tax dollars to accomplish its goals.  For years, the cry on the left has been "don’t force your morality on me".  Today I join them in that cry — don’t force your morality on our families.  Don’t send your unelected agents to our door to pass judgment on our parenting or the life lessons we’re teaching our children.  Most of us are doing fine with our children.  Don’t seek to solve the problems of a small minority of families by imposing the government solutions on all of us.  I’m sure that the esteemed chairwomen on this committee — Mrs. Locke and Mrs. Gates — would not tolerate such intrusion into their family life.  Please respect our right to diversity of thought, religion and morality and stay out of our families.  Thank you for giving me an opportunity to speak for freedom and the rights of families and parents.

Marda Kirkwood:  Thank you, members of the commission.  My name is Marda Kirkland.  I represent Citizens United for Responsible Education.  I will give you a copy of my written comments.  I am so offended by what I have heard here today.  Let me summarize:

  1. The assumption that parents are incompetent and need a government nanny.
  2. The assumption that you know better than we do.
  3. Facts are irrelevant, there is no scientific or validated research to back assumptions about brain development, but you seem unconcerned about that.  Even the proven ineffectiveness of Head Start over the long term does not lead you to question it.
  4. You plan to spend my money to mount a massive propaganda campaign.

How many unwary parents will unwittingly sell their children’s birthright for a Beanie Baby and a Happy Meal?  What’s next — parent licensing?  I challenge you, subject your own children to this socialistic nightmare first.  Then come back in ten years and tell us how it turned out.  I, for one, will not trust my precious children to the self anointed experts.  Thank you.

Cris Shardelman:  And, apparently, I’m part of that etc. on the public sector.  The commission has given us no safe guards whatsoever; no definition or anything.  The DSHS is continually reasoning that their failings are caused by lack of funds, and yet this commission has taken the Federal grants and used that money.  The Commission and legislature fail to remember the overwhelming defeat of the Children’s Initiative by the citizenry.  They said "no" to social engineering such as this.  They’ve had no validated research, and this is not established yet for the state-wide laboratory experiment on children and families.  Here, for the record, are some things:

Children are very susceptible to depression the first years of their life, because they are extremely sensitive to change.  It’s hard on them to adapt to new people early in life.  It leads to depression later in life … the feelings of inferiority and inhibitions.

Zukowski:  Time, Thank you

So much for research!

Leslie Erak:  We have no role for state or government in early education.  It’s the inherent right of parents to oversee the upbringing and education of their children according to their beliefs which, under our state and national constitution, shall not be molested.  Knowing that, it’s easy to see that this commission has no authority.  My name is A.L. Erak, and I’m just a citizen.  Only in a totalitarian society do you have government raising children.  Our Founding Fathers knew about tyranny — they severely limited government for that very reason.  Article #14, Bill of Rights, US constitution, clearly says no state shall deprive any person of life liberty or property.  Those are unalienable rights bestowed by our creator.  Commission members, which part of liberty do you not understand?  Do you need copies of our Washington state or Federal constitutions?  This commission has no authority.  Folks, it’s all over but the shoutin’.  Gary and Mona Locke, Melinda Gates, Rob Reiner, and the rest of you — you may want the state to raise your children, but the citizens of Washington do not.  And that you would attempt to promote this socialist garbage with a 2 million dollar tax payer paid ad campaign is especially offensive.

Dorothy Jane:  I am a fiduciary member of the Health and Safety Network.  I want to say how proud I am of this commission and its deliberations.  The network is exceedingly interested in what you are doing and hope they can participate in support of Gary Locke's commission.  I want to say, I am proud of you for allowing all people to speak their minds, and I appreciate the time myself.

Lloyd Gardener:  I am from Federal Way.  I’m going to get into the cost of this organization.  I guess I would like to be assured … have some idea about the costs that are being imposed on this.  I guess maybe I didn’t follow the legislation that established an authorization for this operation … what the commission is supposed to get in the way of funds.  I do think you are organizing in a manner that you’re going to impose on all kinds of other agencies and get them to help you with your task.  That may be appropriate, but I want to know … I want to know how much money is being spent on this program … so that would include the story about the consultants who we see who apparently have handled much of the TV, expensive ads.  I think that we have to have … we also need you to remember that there’s lots of people … have addressed this problem.  It does seem that you always start over and try to reinvent the wheel.  At least I would like to know, and I guess my question to this group is:  do I have to send some kind of formal reply in order to get a good run down on the costs of the whole program, where it was authorized in the legislature, how many dollars it is, and the time line on which it is authorized?  So I guess my question is:  do I have to … are you going to provide this kind of information?  I heard a million and a half dollars here, that’s all I know.  I don’t know what your consultants are being paid.  Where do I get this information?

Robin Zukowski:  I will provide you with that information after the meeting.

Thank you.

Zukowski:  We have Michelle McKee, Rachel Hawkridge, and Bob Ross.

Juli Coen:  My name is Juli Coen.

Michelle McKee:  I am giving Juli my time.

I’m a concerned citizen out there.  When I first read The Children’s Bill of Rights, I was horrified.  Here I am, in the United States of America — our land, our families for generations have fought to keep free and independent, and I’m reading communist propaganda.  I can’t begin to tell you how much I abhor this entire undertaking.  This is a parent privacy issue.  Two items that I especially take exception to:  Number one — The quote that

 

parents should fashion a quality environment by relying on an appropriate mix of personal, family, community, and government agency support.

 

Who defines quality environment?  Is the state the epitome of parenthood?  I don’t think so.  Why must I be required to use government agency support?  Is Washington State now in the business of telling parents they’re unfit to make their own family decisions?  The second thing I take exception to, is the quote

 

every child has the right to learn a socially acceptable value system.

 

Who determines what is socially acceptable?  I’m a Christian, and those here of other religions will still understand my logic in asking this one simple question:  Was Jesus Christ socially acceptable in his time?  Enough said.

Rachel Hawkridge:  I have two profiles.  The first twelve year old was working to support his family.  One day the boss hit him beside the head and deafened him.  He was poor, had little formal education, and was physically abused and now handicapped.  Another young man did extremely poorly at school, barely mastering a few basic skills, and one with severe behavioral problems.  He was said to be stupid, a moron and uneducable.  These are only two of the many talented and creative people who overcame early adversity, and inspired … or maybe because of that adversity, these two young men went on to great success.  Many of our most talented people have overcome a large burden of adversity.

The two men I mentioned are Thomas Edison and television producer, Steven J. Cannel.

Neither of these men would have fit into the mold created by this commission or the Children’s Bill of Rights.  I understand and commit to your desire to protect the children of Washington State from adversity and hardship.  And since we don’t know if they are made into strong, capable, and successful people by overcoming their adversity, you want to find yourselves responsible for squashing the creative spirit, the innovation, of these kids.  The brain research is inconclusive, and should be more accurately called mind or cognitive research.  We don’t know what shapes character, and I believe there’s much truth to the old saying "that which doesn’t kill us, makes us stronger".  Troubles build character.  Protecting the children from all adversity would damage them.

Bob Ross:  Good morning, almost afternoon.  My take on this whole commission is that it is a travesty, and injustice to parenthood.  It’s not a matter of rights, but entitlements without parental consent.  Maybe some parents can do more, but the state should not evolve into a surrogate parent for all children.  Are so many parents so destitute, so ignorant, so selfish that they will voluntarily, or, at worse, be seduced, through slick advertising by a government program that only wants to "help" raise your children from birth through adolescence?  The human race has raised their own for eons.  It is a bond that is inviolate, and once broken, it cannot be repaired.

Jean Hueston:  I am from the South KC Community Network.  I applaud what you are doing, and what Dorothy Jan said a few minutes ago.  I want to tell you there are some people here from the South KC Network, the largest network in the state.  We are really lucky to hire on a person who has 15 years of public health experience, and she's also been doing family support and center development in Pierce County.  She let us know she wanted to do some work in the South King County just in time when we were looking for a community organizer.  We feel very lucky with that.  I want to warn you that the networks, because of Family Policy Council requirements, is already set up with 2 year plans, and very soon will be giving out contracts.  So, if you're planning, too, with them, I hope you let them know soon, so that they can take it into account, so that the Family Policy Council will also say it's okay to make some revisions in this direction.  Thank you.

Don Brunell:  I'd like to respond to those here today.  I am president of the Association of Washington Business.  My wife and I are proud parents of 6 children and 3 grand children.  One of our daughters graduated from WSU in Early Childhood development.  I have 2 daughters and a son-in-law who are teachers in the Vancouver School system.  We came together … my interest, and I'm sure the interest of those here, is to try to call attention to parenting and children.  We're not trying to impose anything on anyone.  That's not my intention.  I don't think there's anyone on this commission that has that intention.  I notice that there's a lot of concern and hype.  I think the folks that are here and are commenting and helping us go through this process.  It's pretty important.  I know you share the value of parenting.  Unfortunately, as our kids see it out there in the other world, out there, there's a lot of people that don't pay attention to children and aren't good parents.  Our interest here, and my interest in getting involved was to try to figure out ways to reach those people.  It wasn't to impose any value on you.  It's not any communist or socialistic scheme.  The people here are genuinely interested in trying to make it a better place so kids and parents do connect much like you and your children do.  I hope you understand that what we're trying to do is not impose something on anyone.  But we're trying to say to people, "you've got to connect with your kids, you've got to connect to be good parents.  You've got to understand those little kids are the most precious things we have and they have some needs, too; and, by golly, connect with them."  We are not trying to develop some sinister plot on the population … genuine concern for kids, and to connect those kids with their parents.      Response to Mr Brunell

Michelle Mckee:  I'd like to answer that.

Mona Locke:  You gave up your time.

She didn't take my full time.

Joan Crecca:  It's not noon yet.

All I want to say is that I agree with you that something needs to be done.  It’s just that the government track record is not good, and community track records are good.  That’s my only fear — is that the government abuses things.  Other than that, we have the same … we agree.

Commission member:  I think we do.